Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

03/03/2022 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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           SB 175-HEALTH CARE SERVICES BY TELEHEALTH                                                                        
                                                                                                                              
1:32:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON announced  the consideration of SENATE  BILL NO. 175                                                               
"An  Act relating  to  telehealth; relating  to  the practice  of                                                               
medicine; relating  to medical  assistance coverage  for services                                                               
provided by telehealth; and providing for an effective date."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:32:38 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COSTELLO moved  to adopt  the committee  substitute (CS)                                                               
for SB 175, work order 32-LS1421\I, as the working document.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:32:50 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  objected for purposes  of discussion.  He explained                                                               
that the  CS is  a good faith  compromise with  stakeholders that                                                               
will make a better bill.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:33:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON   removed  his  objection;  he   found  no  further                                                               
objection, and Version I was adopted as the working document.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:33:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES and SENATOR BEGICH joined the meeting.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:34:04 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON, speaking  as  sponsor,  paraphrased the  following                                                               
sponsor statement for SB 175:                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  COVID pandemic  brought many  hardships, but  also                                                                    
     inspired  innovation. The  committee has  had extensive                                                                    
     conversations  on   telehealth,  through  both   SB  56                                                                    
     (Disaster   Bill)  and   SB   78  (Senator   Costello's                                                                    
     Telehealth   Bill).  SB   175   capitalizes  on   these                                                                    
     innovations  and  conversations. Access  to  telehealth                                                                    
     services were  broadened temporarily during  the COVID-                                                                    
     19  pandemic.  We  want to  continue  these  telehealth                                                                    
     flexibilities and  make them  permanent in  statute. SB
     175:                                                                                                                       
     •  Improves access to behavioral  health and helps to                                                                      
          address opioid use disorder.                                                                                          
     •  Reduces bureaucracy.                                                                                                    
     •  Makes  health  care  possible  when  an  in-person                                                                      
          visit doesn't make sense, or just isn't an                                                                            
          option.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:35:04 PM                                                                                                                    
     There is an  extensive packet of letters  of support to                                                                    
     this   legislation.  Some   of   the  supporters   are:                                                                    
     Southcentral Foundation, ASHNHA,  Alaska Association on                                                                    
     Developmental  Disabilities,  Alaska Behavioral  Health                                                                    
     Association,  AARP,  Alaska  Primary  Care  Association                                                                    
     Alaska  Regional  Coalition  (TCC,  Kawerak,  Maniilaq,                                                                    
     Chugachmuit, Central  Council Tlingit &  Haida), Alaska                                                                    
     Native  Health  Board,   Family  Centered  Services  of                                                                    
     Alaska, Set Free Alaska, and U.S. Renal Care.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     SB 175:                                                                                                                    
   1) Creates a new section on telehealth for health care                                                                       
     providers  licensed  with  the  State  of  Alaska  that                                                                    
     removes  the requirement  for  an  in-person visit  and                                                                    
     ensures payment parity for telehealth visit.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
   2) Allows physicians licensed in another state to deliver                                                                    
     telehealth services within their scope of practice if:                                                                     
        a. There  is    an   established   physician-patient                                                                    
          relationship,                                                                                                         
        b. The non-resident physician has given the patient                                                                     
          an in-person physical exam,                                                                                           
        c. And the services are related to ongoing treatment                                                                    
          or follow-up care related to past treatment.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
   3) Ensures telehealth availability for services related                                                                      
     to opioid  use disorder  and controlled  substances for                                                                    
     certain providers.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
   4) Increases telehealth access for Alaska Medicaid                                                                           
     beneficiaries by ensuring  coverage and ensures payment                                                                    
     parity   and  Medicaid   coverage  for   virtually  any                                                                    
     telehealth modality.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     SB 175  does not require  anyone to deliver  or receive                                                                    
     services through telehealth. Both  the provider and the                                                                    
     patient  may choose  to limit  or decline  a telehealth                                                                    
     encounter.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON noted that Representative Spohnholz sponsored a                                                                    
companion bill.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:37:02 PM                                                                                                                    
JASMIN MARTIN, Staff, Senator David Wilson, Juneau, Alaska,                                                                     
paraphrased the following sectional analysis on behalf of the                                                                   
sponsor:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: Adds a new section (.085 Telehealth) to AS                                                                  
         08 (Business and Professions) .01 (Centralized                                                                     
     Licensing).                                                                                                            
          (a) Allows a healthcare provider (other than                                                                          
               physician licensed in in another state) to                                                                       
               provide health  care services  via telehealth                                                                    
               without first conducting an in-person visit.                                                                     
           (b) Allows an out-of-state physician to provide                                                                      
               health care services via telehealth if:                                                                          
                (1) The physician and patient have pre-                                                                         
                   established relationship.                                                                                    
                (2) There    has     been    an    in-person                                                                    
                    examination.                                                                                                
                (3) The telehealth visits are a follow-up to                                                                    
                   previously     provided    health    care                                                                    
                   services.                                                                                                    
          (c) Creates limits for a telehealth appointment.                                                                      
              If  a telehealth  appointment falls  outside a                                                                    
              provider's  authorized scope of practice, they                                                                    
              may  refer   the  patient  to  an  appropriate                                                                    
              clinician.  Prohibits  a  healthcare  provider                                                                    
              from  charging for  any portion  of the  visit                                                                    
              that was beyond their scope of practice.                                                                          
          (d) Requires fees charged for telehealth to be no                                                                     
              more than fees charged for in person visits.                                                                      
          (e) Allows a physician, podiatrist, osteopath, or                                                                     
              physician assistant licensed with the State of                                                                    
              Alaska to prescribe  controlled substances via                                                                    
              telehealth if they comply  with Alaska Statute                                                                    
              regarding  prescribing  controlled  substances                                                                    
              without a physical examination.                                                                                   
          (f) Allows an advanced practice registered nurse                                                                      
              licensed   with   the  State   of  Alaska   to                                                                    
              prescribe     controlled    substances     via                                                                    
              telehealth.                                                                                                       
          (g) Prohibits    a   provider   from   prescribing                                                                    
              controlled substances via telehealth other                                                                        
              than as provided in (e) and (f).                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:39:00 PM                                                                                                                    
          (h) Removes the burden to document barriers to an                                                                     
              in-person  visit and clarifies that  the board                                                                    
              or   department  cannot  require  health  care                                                                    
              services   to  be  provided  from   a  certain                                                                    
              location.                                                                                                         
          (i) Clarifies that nothing in this section re-                                                                        
              quires a provider to provide telehealth                                                                           
              services or a patient to use telehealth                                                                           
              services.                                                                                                         
          (j) Defines: "health care provider," "licensed,"                                                                      
               and "telehealth."                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2: Amends AS 08  (Business and Professions) .64                                                                  
     (Medicine)  .364  (Prescription   of  drugs  without  a                                                                  
     physical examination).                                                                                                   
     Removes  the in-person  requirement in  AS 08.64.364(b)                                                                    
     for  an appropriate  health care  provider to  assist a                                                                    
     patient   during  a   telehealth  appointment   with  a                                                                    
     physician or  physician assistant  regarding controlled                                                                    
     substances.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:39:45 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 3: Adds  a new section (.100  Telehealth) to AS                                                                  
     18 (Health,  Safety, Housing, Human Rights,  and Public                                                                  
     Defenders) .08 (Emergency Medical Services).                                                                             
         (a) Allows an individual certified or licensed to                                                                      
             provide    emergency   services    to   provide                                                                    
             emergency services through telehealth.                                                                             
         (b) Requires a certified or licensed individual to                                                                     
             stay within  their scope  of practice  during a                                                                    
             telehealth visit. Prohibits them  from charging                                                                    
             for any portion  of the  visit that  was beyond                                                                    
             their scope of practice.                                                                                           
         (c) Requires fees charged for telehealth to be no                                                                      
             more than fees charged for in person visits.                                                                       
         (d) Removes the burden to document attempts at an                                                                      
             in person visit and clarifies  that the council                                                                    
             or  department   cannot  require   health  care                                                                    
             services  to   be  provided   from  a   certain                                                                    
             location.                                                                                                          
         (e) Clarifies that nothing in this section requires                                                                    
             a provider to provide telehealth services or a                                                                     
             patient to use telehealth services.                                                                                
         (f) Defines "telehealth" as defined in section 1.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
1:40:46 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  4:  Adds  a new  section  (.069.  Payment  for                                                                  
     Telehealth)  to AS  47 (Welfare,  Social Services,  and                                                                  
     Institutions)   .07  (Medical   Assistance  for   Needy                                                                  
     Persons).                                                                                                                
         (a) Requires Medicaid to pay for services by                                                                           
              telehealth at the same rate  they would if the                                                                    
              services were provided in person.                                                                                 
         (b) Requires the department to adopt regulations                                                                       
              for  services  provided   through  telehealth.                                                                    
              Requires these  regulations to  treat services                                                                    
              provided  through   telehealth  in   the  same                                                                    
              manners as services provided in person. Allows                                                                    
              the department to  limit modes,  coverage, and                                                                    
              reimbursement of telehealth only if:                                                                              
              (1) The  department  specifically excludes  or                                                                    
                   limits services from telehealth coverage                                                                     
                   through regulation.                                                                                          
              (2)  Determines, through  substantial  medical                                                                    
                   evidence, that a service cannot be safely                                                                    
                   provided via telehealth.                                                                                     
              (3)  Providing a  service  through  telehealth                                                                    
                   would violate federal law or render a                                                                        
                   service ineligible for reimbursement                                                                         
                   under federal law.                                                                                           
          (c) Requires all telehealth services comply with                                                                      
              HIPAA.                                                                                                            
          (d) Defines "federally qualified health center,"                                                                      
              "rural health clinic," "state plan," and                                                                          
              "telehealth."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:41:23 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section 5: Adds  a new section (.585  Telehealth) to AS                                                                  
     47  (Welfare, Social  Services,  and Institutions)  .30                                                                  
     (Mental Health).                                                                                                         
     Identical to  section 3 but  applies to  entities which                                                                    
     are   approved  to   receive  grant   funding  by   the                                                                    
     Department  of Health  and Social  Services to  deliver                                                                    
     community health services.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6: Adds  a new section (.145  Telehealth) to AS                                                                  
     47  (Welfare, Social  Services,  and Institutions)  .37                                                                  
     (Uniform Alcoholism and Intoxication Act).                                                                               
     Identical  to  section  3  but  applies  to  public  or                                                                    
     private   treatment   facilities    approved   by   the                                                                    
     Department  of   Health  and  Social  Services   in  AS                                                                    
     47.37.140  to  deliver  services  designated  under  AS                                                                    
     47.37.40     AS   47.37.270  addressing  substance  use                                                                    
     disorders.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7-10                                                                                                             
     Amends the  uncodified law  to instruct  the Department                                                                    
     of Health  and Social  Services to submit  an amendment                                                                    
     to  the state  plan  and seek  approval  from the  U.S.                                                                    
     Department of  Health and Human Services  if needed and                                                                    
     provides immediate  effective dates for other  areas of                                                                    
     this bill.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:42:25 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MARTIN presented the changes from version A to version                                                                      
I of SB 175:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1                                                                                                                
     Replaces any  reference to "examination"  with "visit,"                                                                    
     and  updates  corresponding   language  throughout  the                                                                    
     bill, except for providers licensed in another state.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Removes  language  in  subsection   (a)  of  version  A                                                                    
     related  to  the   telehealth  authority  of  providers                                                                    
     licensed in  another state.  This language  is replaced                                                                    
     with  subsection (b),  which creates  an exemption  for                                                                    
     physicians licensed in another  state to deliver health                                                                    
     care services  within their scope of  practice if there                                                                    
     is an  established physician-patient  relationship, the                                                                    
     non-resident  physician has  given the  patient an  in-                                                                    
     person physical  exam, and the services  are related to                                                                    
     ongoing  treatment or  follow-up care  related to  past                                                                    
     treatment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Cleans up the  provisions regarding medication assisted                                                                    
     treatment  by removing  subsection  (d)  in version  A,                                                                    
     which  pertained  to  services  addressing  opioid  use                                                                    
     disorder.  This  language  was  deemed  unnecessary  to                                                                    
     ensure the  telehealth delivery of  medication assisted                                                                    
     treatment   to  treat   opioid   use  disorder   (i.e.,                                                                    
     medication,    counseling,   and    behavioral   health                                                                    
     therapies).                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Revises   the   prescribing  authority   provision   by                                                                    
     separating  physicians,  podiatrists,  osteopaths,  and                                                                    
     physician  assistants in  subsection (e)  from advanced                                                                    
     practice registered nurses (APRNs) in subsection (f).                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Amends the  APRN language in  subsection (f)  to remove                                                                    
     the  in-person  requirement of  prescribing  controlled                                                                    
     substances  (including  buprenorphine) via  telehealth.                                                                    
     This does  not change  the prescribing scope  for these                                                                    
     providers.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Creates  subsection  (h)   to  remove  requirements  to                                                                    
     document  all  attempts  for  an  in-person  visit  and                                                                    
     prevents  the department  or  board  from limiting  the                                                                    
     physical setting  of a health care  provider delivering                                                                    
     telehealth.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Clarifying  language   is  inserted   under  subsection                                                                    
     (j)(2)  defining  all  providers  in  this  section  as                                                                    
     licensed in good standing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:36 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  3 Creates  subsection (h)  under  Title 18  to                                                                  
     remove  requirements to  document all  attempts for  an                                                                    
     in-person  visit.  This  section  replicates  the  same                                                                    
     provisions  on documentation  and physical  setting for                                                                    
     emergency medical services as Section 1.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4                                                                                                                
     Amends telehealth services  included in Alaska Medicaid                                                                    
     by  explicitly   including  home   and  community-based                                                                    
     waiver  services   in  subsection  (a)(2)   and  adding                                                                    
     services  provided under  a  state  plan option  (e.g.,                                                                    
     1915(k) services)  in subsection (a)(3).  Adds language                                                                    
     in  subsection (b),  line 13  to ensure  the department                                                                    
     must revise  regulatory language to  include telehealth                                                                    
     in the definition of a "visit."                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5-6                                                                                                              
     These are new sections  adding telehealth provisions to                                                                    
     entities   in  Title   47.  These   entities  represent                                                                    
     grantees   which   deliver  community   mental   health                                                                    
     services, or  facilities approved by the  department to                                                                    
     deliver   substance  use   disorder  treatment.   Their                                                                    
     authority   to   deliver  telehealth   was   previously                                                                    
     unaddressed  in   version  W   because  they   are  not                                                                    
     applicable to the  provisions in Title 8  or the Alaska                                                                    
     Medicaid   provisions  in   Title  47.   Both  sections                                                                    
     replicate  the  same  telehealth  provisions  on  cost,                                                                    
     scope of services,  patient protections, documentation,                                                                    
     and physical setting as Section 1.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:44:23 PM                                                                                                                    
     Section  5 creates  AS  47.30.585  to include  entities                                                                    
     designated  under AS  47.30.520    AS 47.30.620,  which                                                                    
     are   approved  to   receive  grant   funding  by   the                                                                    
     Department  of Health  and Social  Services to  deliver                                                                    
     community mental health services.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  6 creates  AS 47.37.145  to include  public or                                                                    
     private   treatment   facilities    approved   by   the                                                                    
     Department  of   Health  and  Social  Services   in  AS                                                                    
     47.37.140  to  deliver  services  designated  under  AS                                                                    
     47.37.40     AS   47.37.270  addressing  substance  use                                                                    
     disorders.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:45:07 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  stated  that  when  the  telehealth  bill  was                                                               
introduced  by former  Representative Vasquez,  Alaska physicians                                                               
were adamant about the requirement  for an in-person visit before                                                               
online visits could  occur. She asked for an  explanation of what                                                               
SB 175 does in that regard that wasn't in that House bill.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARTIN  responded  that  the  bill  removes  the  burden  of                                                               
documenting  an   attempted  in-person   visit.  It   would  also                                                               
establish payment parity for telehealth and in-person visits.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:46:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  asked  if SB  175  would  address  prescribing                                                               
related to telehealth.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
1:46:21 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:48:52 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON reconvened the meeting.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:48:57 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD asked  whether HB 275 and SB  175 were identical                                                               
because the fiscal notes talk about two different bills.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:49:12 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  replied that the  bills were the same.  He deferred                                                               
to the Division of Healthcare  Services, Department of Health and                                                               
Social  Services  (DHSS) to  address  the  fiscal notes  and  the                                                               
reason an  additional person  is needed  to provide  services the                                                               
division is already providing to the public.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:49:57 PM                                                                                                                    
RENEE  GAYHART,  Director,  Division  of  Health  Care  Services,                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services (DHSS), Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
related that  the department would retain  some flexibilities for                                                               
public  health  emergency  care.   It  would  require  regulatory                                                               
changes and  quality assurance reviews  of payments,  which would                                                               
require  additional  staff  time.  The additional  staff  was  to                                                               
ensure  quality  assurance.  She   noted  that  the  Division  of                                                               
Behavioral Health  and Senior and Disability  Services staff were                                                               
online.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:51:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON asked if the  department should wait to determine if                                                               
there  are additional  costs to  the  administration. The  fiscal                                                               
note does not say how many  more patients would use telehealth as                                                               
a modality versus in-patient care.  According to the fiscal note,                                                               
it appears  the department  adds this as  a cost  into perpetuity                                                               
and not  just as a one-time  charge. He asked why  the department                                                               
would  not  just  request temporary  funds  in  the  supplemental                                                               
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. GAYHART responded  that the department has  been working with                                                               
Representative  Spohnholz  and  others  on what  could  be  added                                                               
through SB 175  and the companion bill. Due to  the pandemic, the                                                               
flexibilities put  in place added many  recipients to telehealth.                                                               
She  indicated that  if the  changes in  the bill  are permanent,                                                               
they  require additional  regulations,  system  edits, and  post-                                                               
payment claims review.  She stated that the  Centers for Medicare                                                               
and Medicaid  Services (CMS) temporarily waived  the requirements                                                               
because  of   the  pandemic,  noting  that   CMS  reimburses  the                                                               
department  for  services  it   provides  to  recipients  through                                                               
providers. However, making those  changes permanent would require                                                               
additional staff.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:53:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON expressed  concern about  the ongoing  costs in  SB
175. He  offered his view  that the regulation changes  would not                                                               
happen until FY 2027 and FY 2028.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
1:54:05 PM                                                                                                                    
GENNIFER   MOREAU-JOHNSON,  Director,   Division  of   Behavioral                                                               
Health,  Department   of  Health  and  Social   Services  (DHSS),                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska, stated that the  Division of Behavioral Health                                                               
was   very  interested   in  supporting   access  to   care.  She                                                               
highlighted that  part of  their mission  is to  ensure effective                                                               
care and  assurance of quality  outcomes. The  full-time position                                                               
in  the   division's  fiscal  note   would  provide   review  and                                                               
monitoring  to   assure  the  clinical  appropriateness   of  the                                                               
services  and   for  ongoing  review  to   ensure  national  best                                                               
practices related  to telehealth. She envisioned  that telehealth                                                               
would  be a  method of  delivery that  would continue  to develop                                                               
over time. Thus,  the division believes the position  should be a                                                               
full-time  permanent position  to stay  abreast of  national best                                                               
practices and ensure quality.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:55:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  wondered whether the  division was  currently doing                                                               
so.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MOREAU-JOHNSON answered  yes.  However,  this bill  proposes                                                               
language   that  would   require  regulatory   changes  for   the                                                               
administration  of  telehealth,  which would  require  additional                                                               
staff support.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:55:46 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH asked  what additional work the  bill required. He                                                               
related that the  division would need to  develop new regulations                                                               
for one year, but she  indicated the department currently reviews                                                               
and monitors  telehealth activities. Thus,  he was unsure  of the                                                               
additional work that SB 175 would require.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. MOREAU-JOHNSON  answered that language  in SB 175  relates to                                                               
substantial  medical  evidence,  and  because  telehealth  is  an                                                               
emerging platform, the division  wants to ensure patients receive                                                               
quality telehealth care.  She said the bill  focuses on providing                                                               
behavioral   services  through   telehealth,  and   the  division                                                               
supports that  access but wants  to ensure adequate  services are                                                               
provided.  She highlighted  that the  division is  small and  has                                                               
taken  on substantial  work to  implement the  [Medicaid Section]                                                               
1115 waiver.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:57:02 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH stated  he  could understand  up  to a  five-year                                                               
follow-up;  however,  SB  175 should  reduce  documentation  once                                                               
enacted,  so he  was not  comfortable  with the  fiscal note.  He                                                               
offered  his view  that the  fiscal note  is inflated  by half  a                                                               
million dollars. He surmised that it  would likely take a year or                                                               
18  months at  most. He  said  he did  not  see the  need for  an                                                               
ongoing  full-time  position over  time  and  suggested that  the                                                               
division clearly  assess the time  required to  determine quality                                                               
telehealth delivery.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
1:58:08 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  expressed concern  about the cost  of SB  175 for                                                               
Alaskans because  it allows  fees for a  telehealth visit  at the                                                               
same rate as  an in-person visit. She  recalled stipulating years                                                               
ago that telehealth would reduce  health care costs in the state,                                                               
especially  for villages.  She stated  that the  costs associated                                                               
with  telehealth are  less than  for  a clinic.  For example,  no                                                               
medical  assistant   takes  the  patient's  blood   pressure  and                                                               
performs  other   duties,  resulting   in  lower   overhead.  She                                                               
highlighted  that Alaska  has  a problem  with  high health  care                                                               
costs, so she questioned why  the medical fees for telehealth and                                                               
in-person visits would be the same.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  commented  that   his  office  worked  with  other                                                               
telehealth  providers during  a  Medicaid  Policy conference  and                                                               
found that  there were two  reasons for including  payment parity                                                               
in SB  175. One reason was  that it helps incentivize  the use of                                                               
telehealth since  most doctors prefer  in-patient visits  for the                                                               
profitability  of  their  practice.   He  offered  to  distribute                                                               
information from  the National Conference of  Legislatures (NCSL)                                                               
on this. NCSL  researched the issue and found it  also related to                                                               
the  initial  cost  for  some   of  the  rural  community  health                                                               
providers  in the  nation to  provide  telehealth. Thus,  payment                                                               
parity allows  providers to recoup  the initial costs  of setting                                                               
up private  and secure telehealth communications  equipment. This                                                               
is  particularly important  for  small  practices in  underserved                                                               
communities  because they  may not  have the  financial means  to                                                               
offer  telehealth if  the reimbursement  rates are  substantially                                                               
lower. He  noted that  he was working  with stakeholders  and the                                                               
sponsor  of the  companion bill  to consider  an amendment  for a                                                               
sunset date for payment parity.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:01:52 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  opined that  telehealth costs  affect individuals                                                               
and will  also be  reflected in savings  to the  Medicaid budget.                                                               
She  referred to  page 6,  line  9 of  Version I,  that says  the                                                               
Department  of   Health  and  Social  Services   (DHSS)  has  the                                                               
responsibility  to   decide  what  will  be   covered,  excluded,                                                               
limited, or  reimbursed for services provided  by telehealth. She                                                               
offered her  belief that the  medical board decides  what doctors                                                               
can do,  and the nursing  board decides what  nurse practitioners                                                               
can  do.   She  wondered  how   DHSS  would  determine   what  is                                                               
appropriate for telehealth. She  suggested that the medical board                                                               
would want to determine what is suitable for telehealth.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   WILSON  replied   that   this   section  was   addressing                                                               
reimbursable  services. It  allows  the  department to  determine                                                               
which provided services will be  reimbursed. For example, certain                                                               
case  management providers  may not  be covered  through Medicaid                                                               
for  in-patient visits,  but  the visit  may  be covered  through                                                               
another  private insurance.  This provision  would allow  them to                                                               
say which service  modalities will be reimbursed.  It would allow                                                               
the  state  to  set  the   regulations  accordingly  for  current                                                               
procedural  terminology  (CPT)  codes and  determine  which  ones                                                               
would be set for reimbursable services in Alaska.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:04:29 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MOREAU-JOHNSON  agreed that the  language in SB  175 provides                                                               
the  department  the  authority   to  establish  regulations  for                                                               
reimbursement  and  to  maintain   like  reimbursement  for  like                                                               
services to the extent possible.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:04:51 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES referred to Section  1, which states that in-state                                                               
providers  may  use  telehealth without  conducting  a  patient's                                                               
physical exam.  In contrast, out-of-state providers  must have an                                                               
in-person medical  exam before providing service.  She questioned                                                               
the    constitutionality   of    having   different    telehealth                                                               
requirements for using non-Alaskan licensed physicians.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON replied  that  he  did not  believe  it caused  any                                                               
constitutional  issues. He  explained that  Section 1  relates to                                                               
licensing requirements  for doctors,  creating parity  for Alaska                                                               
and out-of-state physicians.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:05:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SARAH  CHAMBERS, Director,  Division  of Corporations,  Business,                                                               
and  Professional Licensing,  Department  of Commerce,  Community                                                               
and  Economic Development  (DCCED), Juneau,  Alaska, related  her                                                               
understanding that Section 1 eliminates licensure for out-of-                                                                   
state  providers.  Out-of-state  providers must  be  licensed  in                                                               
Alaska to provide  care in the state. SB 175  would allow out-of-                                                               
state physicians licensed in another  jurisdiction to practice in                                                               
Alaska via  telehealth, but they  must follow Alaska's  laws. She                                                               
related that  during the  pandemic, some  Alaskans had  a Seattle                                                               
doctor for specialty  care but had health  restrictions and could                                                               
not travel to Seattle. Their provider had limited access to in-                                                                 
patient services, or it was cost prohibitive.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:07:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  stated the explanation makes  sense. She wondered                                                               
if this was opening the  door to allow out-of-state physicians to                                                               
live in  the state and  provide telehealth  services indefinitely                                                               
without obtaining an Alaska license.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  opined  that  the  requirements  would  make  that                                                               
difficult and deferred to Ms. Chambers.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS.  CHAMBERS replied  that the  intent is  to have  a bifurcated                                                               
system  where  a physician  practicing  in  Alaska must  have  an                                                               
Alaska  license.  She  offered   to  research  when  out-of-state                                                               
physicians would  need an  Alaska license  to clarify  the bill's                                                               
intent for the future.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:09:19 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON  stated he would add  the suggestion to his  list of                                                               
potential amendments.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:09:38 PM                                                                                                                    
NANCY   MERRIMAN,  Executive   Director,   Alaska  Primary   Care                                                               
Association,  Anchorage,  Alaska,  paraphrased her  testimony  as                                                               
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
[Original punctuation provided.]                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     The  Alaska Primary  Care  Association (APCA)  supports                                                                    
     the operations  and development of Alaska  29 federally                                                                    
     qualified  health  centers,  also  known  as  community                                                                    
     health  centers,   or  FQHC.  Health   centers  provide                                                                    
     comprehensive   whole   person  care   which   includes                                                                    
     medical,   dental,   behavioral,  pharmacy   and   care                                                                    
     coordination  services.  A   PCA  and  Alaska's  health                                                                    
     centers support  SB 175 because it  increases access to                                                                    
     primary  care and  behavioral health  services, and  it                                                                    
     expands  telehealth  in  this space.  This  legislation                                                                    
     does  several   things  that  are  important   to  help                                                                    
     centers.  First,  it  includes a  range  of  telehealth                                                                    
     modalities,  including audio  only, both  now and  into                                                                    
     the future.  Second, it  allows patients  and providers                                                                    
     to  engage in  telehealth  services  outside of  clinic                                                                    
     setting  if  they so  choose.  And  third, it  provides                                                                    
     adequate    reimbursement   for    telehealth   visits,                                                                    
     providing new  points of access  to whole  person care,                                                                    
     including behavioral health  and substance use disorder                                                                    
     treatment.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     In  2020,   health  centers  served   105,000  patients                                                                    
     through  450,000 visits.  Telehealth and  substance use                                                                    
     disorder  services  are  our fastest  growing  area  of                                                                    
     service,   and  of   those  visits   40  percent   were                                                                    
     accommodated via  telehealth. In the  subspecialty area                                                                    
     of  substance  use  disorder services,  45  percent  of                                                                    
     visits  were via  telehealth. The  temporary telehealth                                                                    
     policy  changes have  benefited health  centers because                                                                    
     they have  allowed health centers  to be  recognized as                                                                    
     telehealth   treating   providers   to   furnish   some                                                                    
     behavioral health  services via audio  only technology,                                                                    
     and  to be  paid for  telehealth services  furnished to                                                                    
     Medicaid   beneficiaries  under   the  health   centers                                                                    
     bundled payment reimbursement model.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:11:47 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. MERRIMAN continued her testimony:                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Health  centers  serve  hard to  reach  community.  The                                                                    
     majority   of   health  center   patients   experienced                                                                    
     challenges in  accessing health care that  include long                                                                    
     distances  to  reach  local providers,  cost  of  care,                                                                    
     transportation,  language,  and cultural  barriers.  In                                                                    
     Alaska, over  half of our  patients are from  racial or                                                                    
     ethnic minorities, a majority  are low income, and most                                                                    
     patients  live  in  rural communities.  Health  centers                                                                    
     best serve  their patient populations if  they have the                                                                    
     ability to use technology  to meet their patients where                                                                    
     they   are  at.   Additionally,  workforce   shortages,                                                                    
     particularly  in  behavioral health  providers,  impact                                                                    
     health  centers   uniquely  as  nonprofit   safety  net                                                                    
     providers. And telehealth allows  health centers to use                                                                    
     their clinical workforce most nimbly.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     In 2021,  a cohort of  health centers reported  that of                                                                    
     their  telehealth interactions  59 percent  occurred by                                                                    
     phone and  40 percent  by audio  or video.  Through the                                                                    
     pandemic   demand  for   tele  behavioral   health  now                                                                    
     represents 35  percent of all telehealth  usage. Health                                                                    
     centers have  witnessed how  telehealth has  provided a                                                                    
     stronger  continuity  of  care  for  patients,  reduced                                                                    
     travel  costs,  and  has   resulted  in  fewer  dropped                                                                    
     visits, and less  delayed and more costly  care. And we                                                                    
     understand  that delivering  quality whole  person care                                                                    
     ultimately  leads  to  better  health  outcomes,  saves                                                                    
     lives,  and in  the  long  run saves  on  cost. So,  on                                                                    
     behalf  of  the  Alaska Primary  Care  Association  and                                                                    
     health centers across the state, I urge you to support                                                                     
     SB 175. And we appreciate your support.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:13:39 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD stated she made  a commitment when she supported                                                               
telehealth  six years  ago to  support  Alaska's physicians.  She                                                               
said she  is pleased that SB  175 requires physicians to  have an                                                               
established  patient  relationship   before  offering  telehealth                                                               
services.  She expressed  concern  that SB  175  might mean  more                                                               
patients would  seek medical  care from  physicians in  the Lower                                                               
48, which could be difficult  for local providers who established                                                               
small clinics. She  wants to ensure that patients do  not turn to                                                               
out-of-area   telemedicine  and   leave  local   doctors  without                                                               
patients.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON  asked Ms. Merriman whether  Alaskan providers would                                                               
have that concern.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. MERRIMAN  opined that SB  175 seeks to establish  and protect                                                               
the patient-provider relationship.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:15:17 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD stated  she supports SB 175  because it prevents                                                               
providers  from  requiring  patients   to  be  vaccinated  before                                                               
receiving treatment. She is concerned  about the opioid crisis in                                                               
Alaska and  whether SB  175 would increase  access to  opioids in                                                               
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON responded  no.  He  stated that  SB  175 would  not                                                               
increase access because there are  still state statutes that out-                                                               
of-state providers  must follow.  He said he  would follow  up to                                                               
ensure  that  all  entities  are   required  to  follow  Alaska's                                                               
prescribing rules.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD recalled that  opioid prescriptions were limited                                                               
to a 7-day maximum prescription.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:16:22 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR REINBOLD  asked if SB  175 mirrors or complements  HB 172                                                               
related  to  psychotropic  medication use  in  sub-acute  medical                                                               
facilities.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON answered no.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:17:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  REINBOLD  related  her   understanding  that  the  local                                                               
physicians, physician's assistants,  and nurse practitioners were                                                               
represented  by APCA.  She acknowledged  that  APCA testified  in                                                               
support  of SB  175,  but  she would  like  to  know if  Alaska's                                                               
healthcare providers support SB 175.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON replied that other  invited testimony would speak to                                                               
her concern.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:17:37 PM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  SOLOMON, Director,  Behavior Health,  Maniilaq Association,                                                               
Kotzebue, Alaska,  stated that Maniilaq  is the  only association                                                               
serving the  Northwest Arctic area  villages on the  North Slope.                                                               
Before becoming an administrator, he  was a counselor who flew to                                                               
villages  to see  patients, carrying  his  backpack and  sleeping                                                               
bag. He  emphasized the importance  of telehealth to  his region,                                                               
which he hopes was happening in other rural Alaska areas.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. SOLOMON  explained that  previously many  logistical barriers                                                               
prevented   patients  from   obtaining  treatment.   Still,  once                                                               
restrictions were removed,  the flexibilities allowed telehealth,                                                               
which brought about an explosion  in the number of clients asking                                                               
for  and receiving  care. Telehealth  for substance  abuse groups                                                               
went up  800 percent in six  months. People had been  waiting and                                                               
wanting care but lacked access  to providers. The substance abuse                                                               
program grew from  five to 70 ongoing clients.  He emphasized the                                                               
importance  of  the telephonic  provision  in  SB 175  for  rural                                                               
Alaskans.  The Northwest  Arctic  has clinics  that  do not  have                                                               
behavioral  health aides  (BHAs) and  organizations with  clinics                                                               
that are  not staffed. The  telephonic option provides  access to                                                               
obtain care. In  rural Alaska, telehealth is not  about better or                                                               
best practices but about care or no care for rural Alaskans.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. SOLOMON highlighted  that Maniilaq has worked  to develop the                                                               
local workforce  in villages, so  village BHA's can  provide care                                                               
to  other  villages.  The  hope  is to  fill  the  remaining  BHA                                                               
positions. In  closing, he stated  that the  Maniilaq Association                                                               
is a strong advocate for SB 175.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:20:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON related that BHA stands for behavior health aide.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  SOLOMON agreed  and  elaborated that  in  the tribal  health                                                               
organizations, a  behavior health  aide works as  a village-based                                                               
counselor.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:20:43 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON opened public testimony on SB 175.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:21:09 PM                                                                                                                    
SUZANNE ISHII-REGAN,  representing self, Anchorage,  Alaska, said                                                               
she is  a member of a  family who has benefited  from telehealth.                                                               
She  thanked  the  state  for   a  quick  pivot  to  provide  the                                                               
flexibility  of  telehealth  during the  pandemic,  which  helped                                                               
protect many vulnerable citizens. She  said she has a male family                                                               
member  who   uses  a  ventilator   and  has  a   primary  immune                                                               
deficiency.  She noted  that telehealth  helped  the family  stay                                                               
connected  to  doctors  and  avoid   exposure  to  illnesses  and                                                               
infection, so they  did not bring them  home. Telehealth provided                                                               
an opportunity for  first-time access to services  when he needed                                                               
to transition  to a new  provider. It also reduced  barriers that                                                               
allowed him  to continue receiving  medical care.  Telehealth was                                                               
beneficial  during extreme  cold and  icy weather,  which further                                                               
complicate   mobility  issues.   She  said   it  was   easier  to                                                               
communicate  since masks  did  not  have to  be  worn during  the                                                               
telehealth appointments.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:23:40 PM                                                                                                                    
SARAH ELIASEEN,  representing self,  Eagle River,  Alaska, stated                                                               
she is a 96-year-old retired  schoolteacher who appreciated being                                                               
able  to  stay  home  and  receive medical  care.  She  has  been                                                               
declared legally blind  and must use a walker. She  can no longer                                                               
use   public  transportation   but  would   like  to   remain  as                                                               
independent as  possible. She surmised  that she is not  the only                                                               
person  who  finds  transportation to  Anchorage  difficult.  She                                                               
mentioned  that  while  visiting   with  her  doctor  online,  an                                                               
assistant kept  records and facilitated  the call. She  asked the                                                               
committee to make telehealth a  permanent option for the elderly,                                                               
disabled, those  in rural  areas, and anyone  else who  needs it.                                                               
She thanked members and urged them to pass SB 175.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
2:27:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CODY  CHIPP, Director,  Alaska  Native  Tribal Health  Consortium                                                               
(ANPHC),   Anchorage,   Alaska,   stated  that   the   telehealth                                                               
flexibility  that  came about  through  COVID  created a  greater                                                               
ability  to provide  greater  access to  care.  ANPHC launched  a                                                               
telehealth  behavioral  health  clinic to  address  COVID-related                                                               
distress. He stated  that ANTHC uses OQ 45, the  gold standard of                                                               
patient-reported outcome measures,  to measure clinical outcomes.                                                               
Telehealth was found  to be accessible, safe,  and effective. The                                                               
clinical  outcomes were  equal to  or greater  than the  national                                                               
averages.  Client surveys  expressed patient  gratitude for  easy                                                               
access  to services  previously  not  available. Alaska's  fiscal                                                               
analysis  has shown  that telehealth  could also  save the  state                                                               
money, as noted  in the Medicaid Reform report in  response to SB
74. Telehealth also  saves individuals time and  money because it                                                               
eliminates driving time.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
2:29:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  WILSON held  SB  175 in  committee  with public  testimony                                                               
open.                                                                                                                           

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SB 192 Sponsor Statement 3.2.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 192
SB 192 Supporting Doc Why We Need CPM 3.2.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 192
SB 192 Audit Recommendations DLA 6.19.2020.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 192
SB 192 FN DCCED CBPL 2.25.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 192
SB 192 FN DCCED IO 2.25.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 192
SB 192 Leg Legal Memo 1.18.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
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SB 192
SB 192 Leg Legal Memo 2.11.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 192
SB 192 Letters 3.2.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 192
SB 192 NARM letter of Support 3.23.21.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 192
SB 175 Sectional Analysis v. I 3.1.2022.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 Sponsor Statement v. I 3.1.2022.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 Explanation of Changes v. A-I 3.2.2022.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 v.I Work Draft 3.2.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 FN DOH MS 2.18.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 FN DOH BH 2.18.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 FN DOH HCS 2.18.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 FN DCCED 2.18.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 175
SB 175 (HB 265) Letters 03.02.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
HB 265
SB 175
SB 192 Sectional Analysis 3.3.22.pdf SHSS 3/3/2022 1:30:00 PM
SHSS 3/10/2022 1:30:00 PM
SB 192